underground room and that's all you do all day. i spoke to my 12-year-old son, he plays a lot of games. he said a lot of his friends play happily, some he sees get upset. they have their headphones all the time, they play them far too much, and he said he sees them get aggressive. i thought that was an interesting insight from a young guy who enjoys his games and has no problems, that he could see a mentality, people getting angry and aggressive. >> i could see where people might get aggressive as far as playing. you get into that mode, but that's almost with any sport, anything you get into. >> right. >> people get into it, it's competition. you have the guy on the other side coming at you. you're going at him. at the end of the day, it's all said in fun. you can get up, walk away. it's over. what they're trying to imply, they're saying you get up, walk away, and then you go outside and kill people. that's not what gaming does. >> the real issue, probably, jeffrey, the mental health issue and guns.